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Elizabeth
No to the MSA Bill
No to the NHI Bill
This is a NO-NO situation. An invasion of everyone's rights and an attack on our finances.

This in UNLAWFUL and should NOT be passed.
Nolene
No to the MSA Bill
No to the NHI Bill
Unlike first world countries, South Africa does not have the infrastructure nor resources to successfully implement this system. I say this having lived abroad for several years.
To then negate any private medical schemes is beyond ridiculous.
South Africa loses many of it well-educated, skilled citizens everyday, let's see how many more flee in the next 5-10 years because of this.
Victoria
No to the MSA Bill
No to the NHI Bill
This will simply deprive anyone with private medical aid of the choice of specialists and where to go, a right we pay for and a necessary one.
The Bill is communisitc and will be funded by taking more from us taxpayers which we simply cannot and will not afford!!
It's ridiculous. Rather spend allocated budget to improve government hospitals. Don't fix what isn't broken to fix something else that is. Then we all end up worse off!!
Caryl
No to the MSA Bill
No to the NHI Bill
Look at the state hospitals! Appalling. Give us freedom of choice. The funds will be plundered!!!!!
Lynn
No to the MSA Bill
No to the NHI Bill
NHI, lets not kid ourselves, this will not insure anything but only mean National suicide and certain disaster. Every SOE is bankrupt thanks to unscrupulous leaders. Taxpayers are exhausted, stretched to the limit and simply done with funding greed, corruption and criminal behavior. The health care system is bankrupt and health care workers and Dr's are over extended. Please realize that this will be playing right into the plan of the global agenda and fast tracking a socialist state; just like gun control, allowing debt, land ownership, taking away the individuals right to free choice. Hate him of love him, President Donald Trump stopped Obama Care and for this very reason. Please uphold democracy for all South Africans.
Linda
No to the MSA Bill
No to the NHI Bill
Our country is already broken on so many levels – a clear reflection of Government's incompetence. Government has shown over and over again that it has no skills to run important systems and enterprises. The way it wants to handle national health insurance is a recipe for total disaster. Please stop the madness NOW.
Moipone
No to the MSA Bill
No to the NHI Bill
The health care system is in shambles. The hospitals are appalling, the hospital staff treat people like sub- humans. First fix what is broken before we jump the gun.
Olga
No to the MSA Bill
No to the NHI Bill
Government is incapable of running any scheme like this.
If they want the best healthcare for the whole of the population, root out corruption, nepotism, etc. Simply look at Eskom, Denel, SAA, etc - the list is very long!
The public is going to have to fund this - nobody can afford funding anything else - it is a challenge just to survive in South Africa after Government looted around 10 Billion!!
If you want equal heath care for everybody, start employing skilled health professionals who actually give a damn and do not steal and loot medicines, equipment, beds, etc.
The problem is that the Government has for the past 10 years killed anything that could have worked.
It has now become a Communist State where people have no say and Government just blunders ahead without doing something about the real problem:
Get rid of the corrupt officials who looted the country's coffers and are still trying to do so!
We have lost so many skilled professionals to date - the rest will leave soon.
If the Government facilities were taken care of, everybody would have had access to the same treatment - instead it was stolen, given away or sold. Government members, Parliamentarians, ministers, etc does not go to public facilities - the lie about wanting equal health facilities for all, is sickening.
Before you sort this problem, nothing else will work.
Anton
No to the MSA Bill
No to the NHI Bill
NHI concern #1: State run healthcare infrastructure has been destroyed, facilties are in ruin and there is no semblance of an acceptable level of government healthcare. It is evident that Government has no capability or expertise to effectively manage the Department of Health. Introducing a change to the extent proposed by the NHI Bill within the next 6 years, despite being honourable, is simply not realistic when reflecting of the administrative and financial failures of the Dept of Health over the last 25 years. Minister Zweli Mkhize has failed to explain what will change administrative or what how the infrastructure will look to support the implementation of the NHI. What are the plans to establish a robust and intelligent health care infrastructure that will counter all forms of corruption, bribery and abuse and ensure that patients are prioritised and treated correctly? There are simply too many unanswered questions.

NHI concern #2: The scourge of government over the last 12 years has been that it's own officials have looted the country. Until such time as the Government can convincingly demonstrate that the corruption has been stopped and controls are in place to prevent this from becoming common place again I will oppose any Act or Bill that proposes offering ANY government institution access to, or custodianship of, more tax payers money. To date not one state looter has been criminally charged or placed in jail for crippling this economy. The thought of giving Government access to the Medical Aid reserves is laughable. Not even 50% of this money will be channelled into health care and it will disappear before any of the programmes to help the poor have been launched.

NHI concern #3: The Dept of Health is on the decline. It is relying on the NHI to pick up a none existing service and become the nations saviour. This is a fallacy. The Dept of Health must first demonstrate that it is able to turn around an ailing infrastrucure and service with the resources available to it, and then only should any discussions regarding an possible NHI be considered. The Dept of Health must get it house in order, before having access to more funds. If not, the NHI will simply be a short term bail-out of a dysfunctional Department.

NHI concern #4: Until ALL government officials feel confident in the competence and the integrity of the healthcare system of South Africa - this includes ALL ministers and the President himself - to the extent that they ONLY make use of Government health care for both themselves and their families, then only should tax payers be asked to support a Bill as ambitious as the NHI.

NHI concern #5: In the last 12 years, the South African government has made it clear that looting, bribery and corruption are acceptable practice and in many instances seen to be an entitlement. Evidence is that despite the country being in financial ruins and the culprits publicly known, there has been no court case, no arrest - only commissions of enquiry that have resulted in nothing more than newspaper headlines. With this proven reputation for lack of control and accountability, how does the NHI plan to prevent fraudulent claims and corrupt health care professionals from further robbing the states coffers (generously funded by tax payers)? Fact is that the Dept of Health has not been a well managed or hihg performing portfolio. Let's fix what exists first, and then try and improve on the system. The NHI will be nothing more than a short term bail out unless the Helathcare system is in working order at the time of implementation - 2026 cannot be a reality for this Bill.

NHI concern #6: How will traditional healers be accommodated in this Bill? Surely tax payers money cannot be used to subsidise what is in many cases a cultural belief with no scientific evidence of efficacy or formal qualification of practitioners.

MSA concern #1: It is unfair that as a tax payer and having been forced to pay private medical aid for the last 20 years because the government service is unusable, that I will be expected to cross-subsidise non-contributors to the fund. I already pay 41% tax and under the bill will be required to pay even more.

Dean
No to the MSA Bill
No to the NHI Bill
Government has proved that it can't run complex systems (lack of skills, corruption, nepotism etc.). Destroying an existing functioning system (for the most part) to try help a destroyed government system obviously won't work. The primary reason for failure of government systems is not lack of resources etc. it is government. Take your pick - transport, health, security, education...
Shiree
No to the MSA Bill
No to the NHI Bill
While this is a great idea in the sense that if every single person in SA was working, however, due to the high employment rate, those few who are working will then have to be more burdened with extra tax, and salaries do not go up in order to accommodate these increases. So in actual fact this bill will make those bearly scrapping through in a month even more dire need. This cannot be pushed into law. You cannot fix your current problems by creating more.
Chantel
No to the MSA Bill
No to the NHI Bill
We pay medical aid for a reason so that we can have the best health service
Natalie
No to the MSA Bill
No to the NHI Bill
This was implemented in the UK and does not work, so why mess up something that is working here. We should have a say as to what we pay for and GOOD medical aid is a necessity here.
Belinda
No to the MSA Bill
No to the NHI Bill
NHI concern #1: State run healthcare infrastructure has been destroyed, facilties are in ruin and there is no semblance of an acceptable level of government healthcare. It is evident that Government has no capability or expertise to effectively manage the Department of Health. Introducing a change to the extent proposed by the NHI Bill within the next 6 years, despite being honourable, is simply not realistic when reflecting of the administrative and financial failures of the Dept of Health over the last 25 years. Minister Zweli Mkhize has failed to explain what will change administrative or what how the infrastructure will look to support the implementation of the NHI. What are the plans to establish a robust and intelligent health care infrastructure that will counter all forms of corruption, bribery and abuse and ensure that patients are prioritised and treated correctly? There are simply too many unanswered questions.

NHI concern #2: The scourge of government over the last 12 years has been that it's own officials have looted the country. Until such time as the Government can convincingly demonstrate that the corruption has been stopped and controls are in place to prevent this from becoming common place again I will oppose any Act or Bill that proposes offering ANY government institution access to, or custodianship of, more tax payers money. To date not one state looter has been criminally charged or placed in jail for crippling this economy. The thought of giving Government access to the Medical Aid reserves is laughable. Not even 50% of this money will be channelled into health care and it will disappear before any of the programmes to help the poor have been launched.

NHI concern #3: The Dept of Health is on the decline. It is relying on the NHI to pick up a none existing service and become the nations saviour. This is a fallacy. The Dept of Health must first demonstrate that it is able to turn around an ailing infrastrucure and service with the resources available to it, and then only should any discussions regarding an possible NHI be considered. The Dept of Health must get it house in order, before having access to more funds. If not, the NHI will simply be a short term bail-out of a dysfunctional Department.

NHI concern #4: Until ALL government officials feel confident in the competence and the integrity of the healthcare system of South Africa - this includes ALL ministers and the President himself - to the extent that they ONLY make use of Government health care for both themselves and their families, then only should tax payers be asked to support a Bill as ambitious as the NHI.

NHI concern #5: In the last 12 years, the South African government has made it clear that looting, bribery and corruption are acceptable practice and in many instances seen to be an entitlement. Evidence is that despite the country being in financial ruins and the culprits publicly known, there has been no court case, no arrest - only commissions of enquiry that have resulted in nothing more than newspaper headlines. With this proven reputation for lack of control and accountability, how does the NHI plan to prevent fraudulent claims and corrupt health care professionals from further robbing the states coffers (generously funded by tax payers)? Fact is that the Dept of Health has not been a well managed or hihg performing portfolio. Let's fix what exists first, and then try and improve on the system. The NHI will be nothing more than a short term bail out unless the Helathcare system is in working order at the time of implementation - 2026 cannot be a reality for this Bill.

NHI concern #6: How will traditional healers be accommodated in this Bill? Surely tax payers money cannot be used to subsidise what is in many cases a cultural belief with no scientific evidence of efficacy or formal qualification of practitioners.

MSA concern #1: It is unfair that as a tax payer and having been forced to pay private medical aid for the last 20 years because the government service is unusable, that I will be expected to cross-subsidise non-contributors to the fund. I already pay 41% tax and under the bill will be required to pay even more.

Whitney
No to the MSA Bill
No to the NHI Bill
This will impact more deaths
Damien
No to the MSA Bill
No to the NHI Bill

The government has not run any service properly messing with the health sector will only end in job losses and add to health concerns. I pay a private fee to be able to get the best treatment I will never go to any government run facility. This will not work

Jason
No to the MSA Bill
No to the NHI Bill
The government has not run any service properly messing with the health sector will only end in job losses and add to health concerns. I pay a private fee to be able to get the best treatment I will never go to any government run facility. This will not work
Wendy
No to the MSA Bill
No to the NHI Bill
Wouldn't it make sense to get our current Government Funded healthcare facilities - and I use that word very loosely as millions of South Africans DO not feel safe going to a Govt Healthcare Facility - up to world class standards before implementing NHI. How on earth do you expect to cover South Africa with the rubbish facilities that we currently have. Govt have pretty much bankrupt SAA, Eskom and now they want to take on an industry that is much bigger than Eskom. There's no wisdom in that...Healthcare in KZN is a joke. You don't want to get cancer in KZN, you're doomed!!!!
Ashley
No to the MSA Bill
No to the NHI Bill
These are both vulnerable to corruption and will lower the state of healthcare in the country.
Chere
No to the MSA Bill
No to the NHI Bill
NHI will not work here. Government will not be able to manage NHI. The poor will not be better off. What kind of service will we receive...
Ria
No to the MSA Bill
No to the NHI Bill
If this is to come in motion, what is the hospitals going to look like? Are the hospitals going to be properly equiped and CLEAN? Are there going to be enough competant and properly trained and effiecient and curtious staff and trustworthy people in hospitals. All these are really in a sorry state in most State hospitals all around the country. First get your hospitals up to standard and then force this onto the taxpayer, which were to pay for this. Make sure the people to manage this are people who could be trusted to budget and distribute the money honestly and truthfully to the right divisions etc.
Margareet
No to the MSA Bill
No to the NHI Bill
The poor will not be better off than they are now. It will be the same or worse. The government will not be able to manage NHI. Too much corruption and incompetence. South Africa is a 3rd world country with a huge tax imbalance. There is no way NHI will work here. This is AFRICA.
WILHELM
No to the MSA Bill
No to the NHI Bill
Only a means to steal more tax money
Rebecca
No to the MSA Bill
No to the NHI Bill
The bill is going to break a frail system. Please don't do this.
Mathibe
Yes to the MSA Bill
Yes to the NHI Bill
The NHI system will cater for even the poorest of the poor. The unpatriotic Doctors who are threatening to emigrate only think of their pockets and are currently milking the Medical Aids and are not helping the poor. NHI system is working all over the world, why wouldn't it work here?